Thursday 4 February 2016

Soapbox Eleven - It's Double losses, Semi-final dates & Conferences this week



Here’s our eleventh week’s Frozen Steel blog fan view on four or five hot topic items. It’s time to get on your soapboxes people! 

Contributors this week are: Mark Duell, Robert Newbolt, Tony (your editor) and Phil Beddoe.

The normal starting point –Without dropping too many F-bombs, what’s your hot topic item from the EIHL this week?

Mark - It is an Edinburgh Caps thing for me. As much as I am amazed at Chubak's stat against Cardiff in the BBT; I'm going for Riley Emmerson's commitment to his club's cause. The man played a period and half with a broken arm! What a warrior. Hats off the big fella!

Phil - I'd be worried if I were DOPS as they've had a couple of bans reduced on appeal now which raises a big question for me - Does this lessen DOPS authority and their efforts to improve safety when multi-game bans start getting reduced to just one game with players then knowing they may get off comparatively easy for something on appeal?  A better explanation of why a ban is reduced on appeal would also be good to see as DOPS explain their decisions in the videos Seth does but we don't always get given reasons for the changes the appeals panel make.

Robert - The issue of the Challenge Cup. The three F’s (Farse,Fiasco,Fail) Time to re-think or scrap it.

Tony – Excluding the issues covered below I think it’s the continued fall-out in Edinburgh. With another forward leaving and Emmo injured, then their season that started with so much promise, and the heady heights of fourth in the table, seems to be destined for the usual basement bottom finish. Huge disappointment for most fan’s ‘second club’.

After a double defeat by Coventry, are the Steelers now out of title contention?

Phil - It ain't over till it's over!  Although we are now relying on Clan and Devils dropping points if we are to stand a chance.

Mark - I think so sadly, we seriously need both Cardiff and the Clan to collapse big time to allow us to retain the title. But then again, we were in this position last season weren't we? With the injuries still in the stands, it's harder this time and is gonna see us fall short.

Tony – If we have to rely on Brad in net, then we’re probably out of it. Even with a first draw n/m we are relying on Clan choking (again) against their in-conference foes, and the Devils having a barren period (which they must do at some stage this year surely). However, extrapolating the table based on results so far suggest we only need a couple of unexpected wins in the run-in to catch up the lost ground.

Robert - Only Steelers supporters gave them a chance before this weekend but what with the gap at the top increasing and Braehead’s run in (they play Edinburgh and Manchester twice each still) even I can’t see a way back for Sheffield.

From the outside what are your thoughts on the CC semi-final date / venue situation?

Phil - Well that created a lot of fuss didn't it!  A poorly worded EIHL release from earlier last year didn't help with the confusion amongst fans either.  I guess in the end Panthers claimed their NIC date was the only one they could get ice-time for and with them having the choice of leg due to the draw it didn't leave Steelers with much of a choice when it came to our own dates.  At least we did have Ice Sheffield to fall-back on when the Arena couldn't give us ice for the game but it does make me wonder what both teams would have done if we didn't have the use of Ice Sheffield.

Tony – Rather proves that we can’t ever contemplate an extended play-off series to ever be organised at short notice doesn’t it. Even the normally unflappable Okey was ranting about the Panthers and how we would return that ‘favour’ in this week’s programme notes.

Mark - Steelers blaming Panthers, Panthers fans blaming us. It's the fans who are suffering here for petty bickering. With nothing on at arena apparently on 23/2; why are we playing at IS then? What's done is done but it's the latest embarrassing situation for the EIHL. Let battle commence!

Robert - There was much talk about this, but leaving aside the slip-up that the EIHL have made regarding home and away ties, it seems there is much more to this than we are being told. It is noticeable that Nottingham have made no official statement to attempt to counter the remarks of Dave Simms. This in itself leads me to believe there was some truth in what he said.

And finally, as we contemplate the requirement for a league title * footnote, should we now scrap the conferences?

Robert - The conference system as a whole is a good idea, as it is much easier for teams and fans to  travel. However I, and I suspect the league, feel it is in need of tweaking. Either swapping Belfast with Manchester (this would be easier for Irish ferry travel) or having three points for Cross-conference games. I think the latter may be unwieldy and a simple swap may be best. It would also help the new club Manchester to grow because their attendances should grow significantly.

Mark - Yes. The league is not strong enough to have conferences like this. One big league is the only answer for a 10 strong team. You need at least 20 teams to make conferences work correctly I think, and that will never happen. Perhaps a financial subsidy for travel costs to the lesser Scottish teams will help soften the financial blow if we go back to one big league. But changes need to be made.

Phil - If the conferences are here to stay no matter what in order to keep some of the teams in business then I quite like @We_Are_Steelers idea of making it 3pts for a cross conference win (compared with 2pts for a win in conference) as it makes those lesser played games more valuable and might even increase their attendances meaning more revenue for the clubs too.

Tony – No I don’t think we need to scrap them, as it seems to work well financially for almost everyone, but tweaks are needed as we need a fair and un-biased scoring system for the main competition. Maybe combine this change with different a different Cup system in the first half which is played mainly in-conference, and a league played nationwide?



That’s all folks. Hope you enjoyed reading our thoughts, and we’d love you to get involved too. Help set the agenda for next week with your questions, or even better get involved and give your views as one of the panel.

We would love different views and different participants each week. Please contact Mark @frozensteelblog or Tony @Disgu15ed, or find us at the game. 

Brief Bios of those panellists you’ve just been listening to in the series so far :
  • Alan is @frozensteelmnl for match night updates and @AwkwardGinge for everything else. Has been watching Hockey for many years, and given half a chance will regale you with tales of the London Knights. Catch him on the Breaking the Ice podcast too.
  • Bethan represents the younger end of the fan base, after being dragged along to her first Steelers game in 2007 and has loved the team ever since. Follow her on Twitter at @bethan_4
  • Eric is a season ticket holder and can be found shouting encouragement to our players and scorn at the zebras alongside three generations of his family in block 115. Views can be found @greenbunch257
  • Mark is one of the main men behind the Frozen Steel blog, being the Editor and Podcast pundit, and has watched the club since its inception. Find him at @hockeybhoy
  • Phil has been a fan since watching the final game of the London Racers at the Sheffield Arena back in 2005 and has adopted block 106 as his second home. He now wishes he had listened to Elliott Hall and had started watching earlier! Find him on @pbeeodd
  • Richard is the big man with the big drum who until recently was to be found leading both the Rock the Block choir and his family in 218. Now looking for a new block to call home, his views, and invites to come join you, can be directed to @CaVaLiEr666
  • Robert is chief architect of steelers-stats.co.uk, the go-to guy for Steelers history from days gone by, and the man behind one of the big White House spotlights! Robert is @steelersstats.
  • Tony has been watching the Steelers on and off since Tony Hand arrived, and has been a regular for the last eight years or so. Enjoys contributing to the blog with his weekly five things and can be found @Disgu15ed


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